I sometimes get some common questions about the program I’ve been a part of for almost three years now, founded by Michael Sartain called Men of Action. Some people tend to just find my Instagram. More details and a full review can be found in this article.
Here are those questions answered.
1. Your Instagram is sick. It looks like you’ve talked to some pretty hot chicks and famous people and even have posts with them. How did you make this happen? It looks like you follow Michael Sartain (because I see Babes in Toyland), but even then, hanging with Bilzerian is fucking crazy.
Yes, I’m part of Sartain’s program, and the credit access goes entirely to his program. He connected me to Dan when Dan was launching and filming his course Sigma Society. It’s probably the only dating/networking program where you actually level up your status, network, and Instagram from scratch whereas most other dating and pick up artist coaches still have you running around the street with commoners approaching strangers. I’d be happy to send you my affiliate link if you’re serious about it. Keep in mind I put in more work than most students. It’s possible if you do more than the bare minimum. It’s not that hard.
2. Have you tried cold DMing? If so, what results? If not, you should definitely try that.
Of course. His program is not a casual thing, and of course they have a whole advanced system for the effective way to cold Instagram DM. This question is amateur but I understand you have no idea what’s in the program. Of course they have a process for DMing. Why else would they teach you to build out your IG? Most coaches don’t know how to build a good instagram so many don’t even tell you to have an Instagram or only get a girl’s phone number.
3. If you have all these sexy chicks and cool dudes around, are you not getting action through social circle? What’s that been like?
I think you’re really asking: “Are you getting results? Surely, you must be doing well because I see photos with hot girls and cool dudes?” That indicates you’re a beginner. Clearly the photos did their job and works on you. But just because you take photos with people doesn’t mean they want to date you. That’s a simple mistake that a lot of beginners who don’t know much about this field fall for.
Just because you take quick photos with people doesn’t mean you have good game or are hooking up with them or they’re attracted to you. You have no right to know my private life even if you ask prying questions, so that’s none of your business. There’s over 1,000+ testimonials of students who have gotten results in the program, so you can look at their videos.
4. Again, no hate at all. You seem to be somewhat comfortable around these chicks. How have the social skills not translated into dating abundance for you? I heard that MOA guys aren’t taught “game” and social skills, which is why they can throw events but not get girls?
Just because you can get around attractive women or have developed the skills to get access to be around them briefly and capture content doesn’t mean you are good at hooking up with them or building attraction. Because you are a man who have never gotten a photo with an attractive woman, you are easily won over and assume someone must be doing good.
This lack of understanding is one of many things that beginners/intermediates get wrong about dating concepts, which is why they can often give misguided advice or even become a mediocre dating coach.
MOA has been incredible, and they’ve had 1,000+ success stories. They also do a lot to try to teach a lot about social skills, particularly a concept in the program called “breaking rapport”, charisma, confidence, vocal tone, body language, etc.
That said, I believe that is their weakness. It’s something many people have mumbled about inside and outside of the program and to me for a few years. And while they have taught it from the start, they are not as strong at teaching it as other programs. Lately, they’ve become very aware of this weakness and have been trying to improve their teachings, as well as highly encourage people to take their Immersion program in Las Vegas, which is almost a week of in-person group coaching in the nightclubs, inherited from Real Social Dynamics RSD, that sold the brand over. I’ve been apart of Immersion too.
The stereotype that MOA folks are the ones who can throw pretty good events and parties but are often the wallflowers in the corner has some truth. But that’s a generality that’s not always true since there’s thousands of different types of members joining every year. There are plenty of pick-up or naturally charismatic people who have great game and join because they can already convert and just just want to up the quality of women they can meet, and these people often do the best in the program.
5. Is MOA a pick-up artist program?
No, in fact, there’s some key things that Michael hates about what pick-up artists teach, like revealing your sexual intent quickly, or lots of touching, that he harps on. There’s a good amount of people with pick-up background in the program, so you have to be careful. Because Michael doesn’t want you to mix advice and get confused, but some of these people like to give their own advice to fellow students, which may just muddle you up. That’s to your own discretion. Some have never heard or down pick-up, and others are die hard PUAs.
It’s not purely a dating program either. A small percent of students who join that I meet tell me they’re not interested in dating or already have that field sorted. They want to improve their business, revenue, network, and status, so they joined to learn from Michael and his team on how to improve their social media and networking.
6. Men of Action only gets you the superficial big-boobed Las Vegas women who are clout-chasers. You won’t get classy women or “low exposure” good women, who are beautiful and have no Instagram and is loyal.
This is often told to me as a statement rather than a question, from former members, or members of other dating programs. Here’s Michael’s advice in a video.
He believes there is no attraction geared only towards “good” versus “bad” women. Effective attraction attracts them all. And he’ll often point to many students who don’t live in Vegas but live all over the world who found their girlfriend or husband. You can check the testimonials to verify. He also doesn’t believe any hot girls don’t have a public Instagram. He has high standards for how hot a girl is, and he will say he hasn’t seen one with a private Instagram – she’s probably ugly to him and your standards are too low (or different than his).
Some of these men who tell me this are already decided. They’re not asking as much as telling me. But if you are open-minded, my opinion is that yes, there are some women who are hot that don’t have an Instagram or have private Instagrams. I’ve approached a lot on the streets and public venues to know that they exist. It’s against the MOA belief, but that’s what I have seen. Most women do, but there are some who don’t.
Frankly, I would prefer a women who has a private or no Instagram as a girlfriend because the assertion of a “low exposure” women is that they are more loyal and less open to stimuli and temptation from men if they have no Instagram. But then again, you can throw a woman in a castle and guard her, but better to let her be free and choose to be loyal because its her character that matters, not blocking her off physically from the world.
I do think the program system was fairly geared towards a certain type of women who like certain things. The event types you’re only taught to focus on include photoshoot, charity gala, theme party, list party, or a swimsuit competition. Most of these events are ones that only really attractive women would respond to. I’ve approached women at the gym who aren’t at this level and they’re confused and put off if I invite them to a Babes in Toyland event or another big event. Some coaches or members of MOA will say this stuff works for every approach, but really it’s for the very attractive women who like these types of events and parties.
A fellow member I met in Poland said it well: “I can invite the most attractive women I know to Miss Poland, but if I cold approach an average or cute girl off the street or Starbucks and offered her to go to Miss Poland, she would just look at me like, ‘WTF?'”
It doesn’t fit the mold for these women because they don’t think they’re hot enough to be at these things. But that’s possibly exactly what you want. Depending on your goals, you may just want the hottest girls only and want to increase the quality of the girls you reach.
I do believe there are some women at these key event types that are not “clout-chasing” or “Las Vegas flashy non-classy women.” You can totally use the same system to meet women who are classy and quality. Why can’t you take the same system and apply it in London or Bali or Florida and throw a photoshoot and meet some beautiful classy women with legitimate jobs? I’ve seen it done in each of these locations.
Is there some truth to the stereotype? Sure. Something about the Vegas energy adds to it. And I do acknowledge in my experience women you meet at photoshoots or these events tend to have Instagrams with lots of followers and they’re posting a lot of photos of themselves. Perhaps, that’s a woman that’s “not classy” enough for you or “too self-centered” for your future partner. But does that mean she’s not classy? If she’s attractive, why not show it off a bit? Perhaps, she is egocentric, but then again, most women post photos of themselves. And one of the guys who says this has a girlfriend that also posts a lot of photos of herself on her IG.
It may not work for every situation. I have encountered some attractive women that I found cute who may not be smoke shows that didn’t respond well in person to an event invite or respond at all to a DM. It happens. It’s not the end of the world though. If this system truly doesn’t work for some girls, there’s plenty of other systems being taught that you can test such as the PUA stuff.
If you have any more questions for me, leave them in the comments below
